Robert Pulvirenti Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 I thought to share a few observations of growing this plant after Jay informed me that only the southern spineless form is commonly grown in the USA. I received 15 small seedling plants that were germinated in a piece of tree fern on the 21st Dec.2014 from an orchid nursery in Cairns. This form is also from the Cairns area and by the 23rd Jan 2015 the seedlings had grown so much they were starting so squash into each other. I then started the difficult task of breaking up the tree fern so I could split up the seedling and pot them individually without doing too much damage to their roots. Unfortunately I did not take any pictures at this stage, but the larger seedling had a caudex about 30mm in dia. and there was quiet a variation in size among the siblings. A cross section of some of the plants today from 45mm to 80mm caudex size. This form does not start to grow its spines until its caudex reaches about 50mm in dia. and the first spines usually start on the lower parts of the caudex and on one end before covering the whole caudex. The plant on the left has a caudex of 45mm and its first spine at lower left, the plant on the right has a caudex of 50mm and its first group of spines on the lower left side. Most of the larger plants have quiet uniform spines but one plant has developed spines that are a bit longer and more widely spaced. Plant on the left has a 65mm caudex and long widely spaced spines, the plant on the right has an 80mm caudex and typical spines, it is also the largest of the group and is starting to develop flower buds. In summery I find this form the fastest growing Myrmecodia species in my collection so far, I grow it hung up high in my shadehouse in natural light under about 60% shadecloth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stone Jaguar Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 Thanks, Robert! Love the look of the two caudexes in last photo. Almost like young platytyrea. I wonder whether this form is grown ín the EU? J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Pulvirenti Posted March 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 Hi J It is interesting that you commented that these plants look like M.platytyrea, I have been a bit concerned about their identity. The leaves look more like those of M.platytyrea 'Mossman Form", also the ridges on the caudex. Its not unusual for ant plants to be be misidentified here, especially from nurseries that don't specialise in them. These days I only get plants from specialised nurseries like Rita Kupke's or collectors that specialise in these plants. Fruit colour will finally give a positive identification to these plants and I would not be surprised if they turn out to be M.platytyrea and this post will have to be renamed! In the meantime Rita has some definite young M.beccarii 'Northern Form', so I will get one from her for comparison. Robert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 Bonjour ROBERT great success , you also on the 2 last picture , it seem to see M.beccarii ,especially seeing the small annex stem on the principal stem , no spines rimming clypeoli (or what appears to be one) wait and see later jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Pulvirenti Posted March 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2016 HI Jeff The Mossman form M.platytyrea is commonly multi-stemmed compared to the Cape York form, so seeing side stems starting to form on a young plant is not unusual for this form, also the largest plant is starting to form spines around what will be the clypeoli. Rita sent me down two M.beccarii 'Northern Forms' which arrived on Tuesday 15th and I can say with a fair degree of confidence that the above plants are actually M.platytyrea 'Mossman Form' and not M.beccarii. When I get a bit more spare time I will post a picture of the young M.beccarii 'Northern Form' and the clypeoli spines starting on the young M.platytyrea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff Posted March 18, 2016 Report Share Posted March 18, 2016 for M.beccarii on clypeoli it seem that spines sometimes present , scaterred. but wait and see afterwards just an other question , how many pyrene : 4 or 6(8) jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Pulvirenti Posted April 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 Last month I got Rita to send me down a young plant of M.beccarii (Northern form-Cairns) and M.platytytea sub.antoinii "Mossman form" from her nursery for comparison. I also got in contact with the nursery in Cairns that I got the original seedlings from and they confirmed that they have several species other than M.beccarii "Northern form" and that I could have been sent one of these. The photo shows M.platytyrea sub.antoinii "Mossman Gorge" on the the left and M.beccarii "northern form" from Cairns on the right. Caudex size of these plants is 30mm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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