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It helps to have all chapters as one link. When looking up information on ant plants, referencing your book first helps a lot and saves time. I might have put some redundant or duplicate information and links above. When I searched the database the first time, not much information was on Hoya imbricata. After I posted what I found, I rechecked your database and this time information on H. imbricata was there. I am not sure why I did not see the information the first time I checked.

That is as much as I could find for the day. I hope my humor came across well for headache relief. It can be a headache. The E book database will clear up a lot of confusion.

The essential answer to the original question has already been covered under Hoya imbricata in my E book database. However, I have added a little more detail that hopefully will appear in my 2022 edition. I am soon to have heart surgery so ?????

Perhaps determine which, of the names above, are synonymous with H. imbricata and which ones are considered seperate species? They are synonymous according to BLUMEA 46 (2001) 457-483, which also states Hoya shallertiae is synonymous: "We do not think that the variation in above-mentioned vegetative traits justifies the separation of these growth forms into separate taxa. We have therefore placed H. maxima (H. Karst.) Warb., H. pseudomaxima Koord. and H. imbricata Decne. forma basi-subcordata Koord. in synonymy with H. imbricata Decne. We suspect that H. shallertiae Burton was desc

This is what IPNI (International plant name index) records for H. imbricata. https://www.ipni.org/?f=f_specific&q=genus%3AHoya%2Cspecies%3Aimbricata Tropicos page. https://tropicos.org/name/2601517 Thus, there is probably no scientifically accepted list of possible varieties of this fairly widespread variable species. Indeed, it seems that the modern botanical trend is to mostly avoid varieties. Of course many commercial sources will try to name what they sell, often with little to no scientific or even useful to the buyer accuracy. So it is very much a case of buyer beware.

I looked again and found Hoya maxima from Celebes. There is not much information about it. It is in German. Sulawesi is also known as Celebes. The Philippine journal of science. https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/1125#page/2/mode/1up Page 265: "Hoya maxima aus Nord-Ost-Celebes" (Hoya maxima from north-east-Celebes). If I am translating it all correctly, the upper side of Hoya pseudomaxima is completely smooth without cuticular stools or fluffy hair. Also, here is some information: The World of Hoyas - A Pictorial Guide by Dale Kloppenburg http:/

This has some information describing the differences (not entirely in English) and includes drawings. It shows different forms. I am assuming it only describes plants found in the Philippines. Hoya maxima is not listed. Could this be because it is mainly on Sulawesi? Year: 1919 (102 years ago). https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/1125#page/2/mode/1up You can browser search directly in the pages or download the 600+ page file and search it that way. There is recent information on their differences. In the past I have grown some of these but I did not explore their diffe

Tlk abt getting a freaking headache. No wonder there is soooooo much confusion in the ant plant world. Greatly appreciate any insight. Hoya imbricata var. imbricata [green leaves & drk green speckled white/silvery leaves], Hoya imbricata var basi subcordata [drk green speckled white/silvery leaves], Hoya imbricata maxima [silver leaves], Hoya imbricata maxima [red corona/flower--drk green speckled white/silvery leaves], Hoya Imbricata maxima [white flower--drk green speckled white/silvery leaves], Hoya imbricata maxima [yellow corona--drk green speckled white/silvery leaves], Hoya

Seeds don't travel as well overseas given rules and delays. So give us the country where you are and maybe someone there will give or sell you some seeds If your "Thank's mate" is a clue, we do have some wonderful members in Australia who may post to you here or send you a PM (personal message here on our site)

Thanks mate. I have never used facebook but if it's a viable source of information maybe will venture there. I had hopes this site would serve a similar service /could possibly find people to trade with when mine is producing berries.

Hi Ideaguy, welcome to the forum. Yep, everyone got it right! If you are lucky enough that a little caudex starts to form it will be slow and ugly and never get to be the real thing - and may never fruit and if it does you could have done it faster and better with a seed. Start from a seed and you will have a caudex within a couple months (yes, I know,very small to start but already with an ant entry hole in the bottom!). Folks on the facebook group "Ant Plant Cultivation" talk about cuttings on a regular basis. Search back there if you want to see more "its not worth it". Much be

Hello, I recently bought H. moselyanum I was reading that rooted cutting will not form a caudex. So everyone says "its not worth it". It seems to me that cloning would still leave you with some epiphytic sprawling "vines" that would still produce viable seeds. Any insight on that? Anyone have experience with taking and keeping clones from these?

More nectar images. Ants love it. I am not suggesting it is safe to eat and I do not know the composition of the nectar. However, It is very sweet (don't ask how I know that). The ants feed on the ferns nectar, and I can see their abdomen expand as they gorge themselves. Many Ant species have two stomachs a private stomach and a social stomach.

I also had no trouble in opening and viewing. Truly Amazing! Thanks so much ken

Derrick!!! Thank you very much for providing us with the fruits of your many years of labor as regards your extensive database of Epiphytic Myrmecophytes!!!!!!!! I just browsed 4 of the chapters and had no trouble opening or navigating them. Photo quality is excellent and the extent of your research is truly inspiring! We are honored to have all this available to us at our "finger tips". I want to encourage all of our members and guests make use of all of this that you have provided. It is so thorough that some of us will feel overwhelmed with reading it, but start at

All chapters are now available from one link. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/gnxb5l5t440rpr2/AACsAKqANEqAyznBh_jJd7mEa?dl=0 I am still not sure if this is downloadable due to lack of feedback. Also, I find Dropbox is NOT user friendly.

In 2017 I received a packet of seeds labeled as Anthorrhiza caerulea. I sowed them and got good germination. There was some variation in the seedlings and young plants but all were making large asymmetrically branched spines on both the caudex and stem - what was not to like about that! In 2018 and 2019 I sold some of the plants on the American eBay using the name on the seed packet, Anthorrhiza caerulea. "Caerulea" is derived from a Latin word meaning blue in reference to the fact that this species has beautiful blue flowers. My first plant bloomed in September of 2020 and is pictur

Have you tried using a rooting hormone gel ? or powder ?

Are these tours a regular or even yearly occurance ?

Nice looking plants Gonny

Hi all! To begin '21 with a nice new, the first (impressive!) flower of Strophocactus wittii in Nancy's greenhouses. Growing epiphytically in the trunk of Cecropia membranacea, from cuttings from Geneve BG (Switzerland) in 2017. The best, Aurélien

Thank you very much to all who have contributed to the funding of our forum in the previous years! AS TO THIS YEAR, 2021: Every time I sign on to our forum the first thing I check is who is currently online. Over 90% of the viewers are "guests". Many of our original and early members have left or visit only occasionally. This is not really a surprise; there has always been an "ebb and flow" to what group of plants are popular and being sought out in any given year. The "tide is clearly out" on ant-plants right now. There are thousand of books and websites for orchi

Has anyone had any similar success stories recently ?

very interesting !

A few weeks ago I bought a variegated dischidia oiantha. It has several new growths on it that are growing fine since I got it, getting larger and more mature. Since it seemed to be doing so well I thought I'd try propogating it to make my pot a bit fuller. I took a cutting, allowed it to dry and sat it in some water. The cutting died. I tried again, but placed it in its own substrate. That one also dropped its leaves, turned brown, and died. My third one just died also. That one I simply layed it on top of the substrate, covered the aireal root just a bit, and left it to its own. Still it die