Derrick Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 http://www.researchgate.net/publication/276988079_The_world_list_of_ant_domatium-bearing_plants_nph13271-TableS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurélien Posted August 14, 2015 Report Share Posted August 14, 2015 Really nice! Albeit this document is not complete, It's a really interesting synthesis of many other works. The other helpfull thing, is the list of references. We can have access to (for me) unknown reference, such many works about myrmecophilous Acacia. Interestingly, we see also "Jebb & Huxley (in press)" for the reference about Hydnophytum... And on page 19, the first name is "Hydnophytum perangustum Jebb & C.R.Huxley". Now, we know were the elusive name "perangustum" come from : the work "in press" from J&H... but still nomen nudum. As well as many "new" names for me, with the affixed author name Jebb & C.R.Huxley. I hope it will not stay "in press" too long time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrick Posted August 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2015 Yes, I posted this with you in mind Aurelien. Some of the unpublished Hydnophytum names I had already found in herbarium records but I can now add another seven (to my possible future editions) and I have added detail to H. perangustum. I have also added a few more genus names and see my post regarding Microgramma megalophylla. This latter species is unusual because it has domatia UNDER its rhizomes not in HOLLOW potato-like tubers, thus it reminds one of Lecanopteris sinuosa. I note also that Jebb is listed as lead author. I see also that Dischidia saccata is mentioned. Edit. There are some interesting leads that I will explore with new information added to the next edition. African members may wish to do some work on the species from their part of our world. Some may prove to be epiphytic if only optional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurélien Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 Yes, I also see some herbarium sheets on Jstor and other when I searched for some unknown Hydnophytum names... Still unpublished, but already named on the sheet, with again the same author name : Jebb & C.R.Huxley! I see your post about M. megalophylla. But I don't see it in the "List of known myrmecodomic species." The best, Aurélien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrick Posted August 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 " I see your post about M. megalophylla. But I don't see it in the "List of known myrmecodomic species." Unquote Aurelien, there are quite a few probable errors in the list, this being an example; an old synonym Polypodium schomburgkianum Kunze was used. Incidentally, regarding epiphytic myrmecodomic species, my book is more complete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurélien Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 Aurelien, there are quite a few probable errors in the list, this being an example; an old synonym Polypodium schomburgkianum Kunze was used. Incidentally, regarding epiphytic myrmecodomic species, my book is more complete. Ok, I didn't know this synonym. Only the old name Polypodium megalophyllum. That's why I don't found it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff Posted August 17, 2015 Report Share Posted August 17, 2015 Bonjour on this list all these plants are myrmecodomic ( house) no allusion to the myrmecotrophic (food) and the myrmecoxenic ( house and food ) for the hydnophytum I see just 40 species for me a lot of others exist , for the perangustum some doubt on the name relationship jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurélien Posted August 17, 2015 Report Share Posted August 17, 2015 for the perangustum some doubt on the name relationship ? Could you explain your opinion ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff Posted August 18, 2015 Report Share Posted August 18, 2015 Bonjour in the absence of documents, I am not sure of the paternity of their name being made, in fact waiting for the evidence. the Latin name seems nevertheless well built jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrick Posted August 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 Edited. Jeff wrote "for the hydnophytum I see just 40 species for me a lot of others exist" A number of the yet to be published Hydnophytum names (and others) do not appear in this list. It is probably a fairly safe bet that it is because they harbour animals other than ants or ant associations have yet to be observed in the field. Incidentally, Jebb only mentions 55 species in his post about his 'forthcoming' revision. http://www.botanicgardens.ie/herb/research/hydnophytum.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrick Posted September 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Regarding "The world list of ant domatium-bearing plants nph13271-TableS1" A number of names used in this list are nomen nudum or old synonyms but most of them I have been able to trace to their modern names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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