jeff Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 Bonjour may be, here ,put the taxonomy list to the ant dischidia , species by species in the 3 sections , if it is possible jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Wistuba Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 Bonjour may be, here ,put the taxonomy list to the ant dischidia , species by species in the 3 sections , if it is possible jeff Dear Jeff, sorry, but I do not understand? All the best Andreas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff Posted March 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 Bonjour my english is very bad excuse me in the ant dischidia we have 3 sections -Ascidiophora -Conchophyllum - and other to lie flat on the trees ( with root between ) may be in each section , put all the species which interest us . jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DischidiaGuy Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 Bonjour my english is very bad excuse me in the ant dischidia we have 3 sections -Ascidiophora -Conchophyllum - and other to lie flat on the trees ( with root between ) may be in each section , put all the species which interest us . jeff Section Conchophyllum are the flat ones. They are also referred to as the shell leaved species. It will be difficult to make a complete list as many of them have not been described but I can do my best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff Posted March 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 ah OK in the Conchophyllum section ,we have the flat and the shell leaves , not just the shell leaves . 'merci' for this info . jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DischidiaGuy Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 Perhaps I'm confused. Maybe you mean the laminate or "normal" leaf types. When I read flat, I assume you mean the shell leaved species. ah OK in the Conchophyllum section ,we have the flat and the shell leaves , not just the shell leaves . 'merci' for this info . jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff Posted March 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2014 Bonjour "Dischidia has been divided into three sections; section Ascidiophora (sometimes Ascidifera) that includes D. major and two other (now three other) highly evolved ant-house species. Section Conchophyllum comprises the so-called (bivalve) shell or domed-leaf species that closely clasp trees thereby creating nesting spaces beneath. Section Dischidia encompasses the ‘normal’ laminate-leafed species such as D. litoralis, D. nummularia and D. ovata. DNA evidence shows that section Ascidiophora and section Conchophyllum comprise a single monophyletic group confirming that ascidians evolved from a shell-leaved ancestor. (Livschultz 2000.) All three groups have myrmecophytic members" for the section Ascidiophora no problem for the section Conchophyllum yes for the shell leaves ( lake a bivalve) but the specie to lie flat on the trees ( with root between ) are also in this section or in the section Dischidia ? for the section Dischidia , with a 'normal' leave ? what species in this section are myrmecophytic ? jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DischidiaGuy Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 Okay I will try to do this from memory as I don't think there is an official list. Furthermore, I will have to do more research on the laminate species that have ant relationships. Section Ascidiophora: Dischidia complex Dischidia major Dischidia vidalii Section Conchophyllum: Conchophyllum striatum Dischidia astephana D. albiflora D. cleistantha D. cochleata D. cornuta D. diphylla D. imbricata D. longepedunculata D. milnei D. platyphylla D. purpurea D. saccata D. sp. Camiguin Island (often erroneously referred to as D. imbricata) D. sp. Nueva Vizcaya (astephana look alike from Philippines) Section Dischidia: D. dohtii D. nummularia D. parvifolia (this is an assumption based on the fact it is often found with D. astephana) D. rimicola There are many others. I will try to update the list once I do a bit more digging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff Posted March 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Bonjour merci for this list . in the section Conchophyllum what specie make a shell leaves ? jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DischidiaGuy Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Bonjour merci for this list . in the section Conchophyllum what specie make a shell leaves ? jeff All of section Conchophyllum make shell leaves. Section Dischidia make the laminate leaves (which I believe you were calling them "flat leaves with roots between"). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff Posted March 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 bonjour then in the section Conchophyllum we have -species with concave leaves, lie flat on the trees, with root between -species with concave leaves, joined, full of roots (shell leaves) jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DischidiaGuy Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 I grow a plant with normal foliage in the Genus Conchophyllum. It is Conchophyllum cf. elmeri. I assume the plants in the genus Conchophyllum are probably in section Conchophyllum. But maybe the section and the genus are separate. Not sure how that all works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff Posted April 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2014 Bonjour conchophyllum striatum = dischidia striata ? I have the herbarium sheet of this dischidia striata if you want. jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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