Andreas Wistuba Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 In 2011 we came across a very interesting species of Myrmecodia on Gunung Sidole in Central Sulawesi (Indonesia). I think it's something new: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix S. Posted February 15, 2014 Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 Hello Andreas, Looks a little bit strange... Have you seen ants on the plants? Felix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Wistuba Posted February 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 Not that I remember... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 you have find this specie to what altitude ? 450-1000m may be a tuberosa "menadensis" there are present in the central sulawesi jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Wistuba Posted February 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 you have find this specie to what altitude ? 450-1000m may be a tuberosa "menadensis" there are present in the central sulawesi jeff Hi Jeff, honestly, I am not a believer in the whole Myrmecodia tuberosa "lumping concept". IMHO, a whole load of good species is dumped into M. tuberosa without much of reason. Huxley and Jebb write, that there is a "variable continuum" from "Indochina and the Philippines to Australia and the Solomon Islands". I have seen quite a number of specimens from Indonesia and the Philippines and my impression never was that of a continuum. In fact, there are habitats where more than one perfectly discrete species occurs. Reading the concept of M. tuberosa in Huxley and Jebb I mainly see a long listing of characteristics that are either present or absent Maybe, I am missing the point, so if anybody here has a better understanding of the concept behind, I am open to discussions or might even get convinced. However, until then for me it would still be Myrmecodia menadensis, which was validly published and thus is still a valid epithet that can be used. All the best Andreas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Bonjour yes, but we must take into account every issue and be objective.I agree with you on the fact that many of these tuberosa with their different morphological characters can claim to have the names of species, just well put everything flat and well untap the discreminants.that is why, the macro photos are crucial to me (tuber,stem,leaves) may be also the inflorescence with the place of the anters , stigma and may be the ring of hair inside , problem there are very little and difficult to cut without damage jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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